Question:
Perfect pitch? Comments?
tucomena
2008-11-06 07:45:29 UTC
This is from the University of Rochester
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August 25, 2008

'Perfect Pitch' in Humans Far More Prevalent than Expected
Researchers at the University of Rochester's Eastman School of Music and Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences have developed a unique test for perfect pitch, and have found surprising results.

Their research shows that perfect pitch—the ability to recognize and remember a tone without a reference—is apparently much more common in non-musicians than scientists had expected. Previous tests have overlooked these people because without extensive musical training it's very difficult for someone to identify a pitch by name, the method traditionally used for identifying those with perfect pitch. The new test can be used on non-musicians, and is based on a technique to discern how infants recognize words in a language they're learning.

The findings will be presented at the International Conference on Music Perception and Cognition in Sapporo, Japan on Aug. 25.

"Tests for perfect pitch have always demanded that subjects already have some musical training or at least familiarity with a particular piece of music, which really limits the pool of candidates you can test," says Elizabeth Marvin, professor of music theory at the world-renowned Eastman School of Music at the University of Rochester. "That means nobody really knew how prevalent perfect pitch is in humans in general."

The findings are part of a larger investigation into perfect pitch at Rochester.

While Marvin has been studying musicians with perfect pitch for many years, her research with Elissa Newport, professor of brain and cognitive sciences, began when Newport looked into research on pitch perception in animals and found that absolute pitch, the scientific name for perfect pitch, is widespread in the animal kingdom even though it's very rare in humans. Humans are unique in that we possess the ability to identify pitches based on their relation to other pitches, an ability called relative pitch. Previous studies had shown that animals such as birds, for instance, can identify a series of repeated notes with ease, but when the notes are transposed up or down even a small amount, the melody becomes completely foreign to the bird. This holds true for almost all animals, but not humans, which suggests that, ironically, common relative pitch hearing may require more brainpower than perfect pitch.

To explore the cognitive basis for perfect pitch, Marvin and Newport wanted to test the basis for pitch perception and memory in people who had never been musically trained in order to get a better idea of exactly how common perfect pitch is in humans. Estimates of how many people have perfect pitch have always been unreliable because non-musicians have no way to identify a note, whether they recognize it or not. Newport has worked for decades to understand how infants come to make sense of the jumble of sounds spoken to them, and one of her former students, Jenny Saffran, had begun to use their experimental materials to study pitch perception in infants. Marvin and Newport, working together, created a pitch-based test similar to these language-based tests.

Both musicians and non-musicians listened to groups of three notes, with the groups played in a continuous stream in random order for 20 minutes.

Just as the human mind quickly begins to identify new sound sequences (words) in a foreign language, the students learned to identify the groups of notes embedded in the stream. Crucially, however, the test made it very difficult for a student to identify and remember the names of particular notes because the notes were constantly coming in the 20-minute stream.

Marvin and Newport then tested the students. They replayed the note groups, plus new groups the students hadn't heard before, and asked the students if each group of notes was familiar or unfamiliar.

The critical feature of the test was that the team transposed some of the original note groups to a different key without the knowledge of the students.

Students who unconsciously used perfect pitch to indentify notes stumbled over the transpositions. They heard them as a new group of notes they'd never heard before. Students who relied on relative pitch, however, heard the transposed notes and automatically and unconsciously recognized them as familiar—the notes seemed to be of the same group heard before.

The test corresponded well with the results of conventional tests for perfect pitch in musicians, which strongly suggests the new test works. But to the surprise of Marvin and Newport, there were a number of nonmusicians who used perfect pitch to identify groups of notes but did not know they had perfect pitch.

The team is now investigating the other cognitive abilities of this new group of listeners with perfect pitch, to determine what might distinguish them from th
Six answers:
hafwen
2008-11-06 21:43:56 UTC
Hi, Tucomena!



An interesting report, indeed - thanks for posting it - shame it cuts out at the end, though.



I have to agree with Azucena that perfect pitch can be both a blessing and a curse. Every time this subject comes up, I immediately think of a fellow student at the Conservatorium, many moons ago. He was (still is) a brilliant cellist, a wonderful musician - and also happens to possess the "gift" of perfect pitch.



Some of us were quite in awe of this cellist's "gift" of perfect pitch, and for a while I wished I'd been blessed in the same way. But then something happened, which quickly changed my attitude...



I gathered together some of my Conservatorium friends, and we organised a lunchtime performance of Baroque chamber music. I insisted that we play at Baroque pitch (A=415.) But my poor cellist friend couldn't cope - the act of playing a semitone lower completely threw him, and suddenly his impeccable pitch was no more. It was all over the place - he now sounded like the proverbial dog's dinner!



It was with great reluctance that I agreed to perform the concert on modern instruments, at modern pitch - needless to say, the cellist then played superbly!



I'm so glad that I don't have perfect pitch...as a Baroque nut who plays at A=415, it really would be a terrible hindrance!



Hafwen x
Azucena
2008-11-06 15:44:49 UTC
Interesting report. I've long suspected that perfect pitch is a facility that transcends musical knowledge, as I've known people with incredible pitch memory who couldn't read music.



Perfect pitch can be both a blessing and a curse. One of the basses in my choir a few years ago had perfect pitch. It was great when we needed a starting pitch for an a cappella piece ("Hey John! Give us an Ab!"). But he had terrible problems if we drifted even slightly off pitch (going slightly flat, for example). He found it almost impossible to adjust as the tonal center shifted.
anonymous
2008-11-06 16:47:03 UTC
Perfect pitch is widely accepted to be either a learned skill from listening/playing a lot of music or else genetically inherited. I am more likely to support the learned ability, because neither of my parents nor anyone else in my family has ever had the remotest musical talent, yet I have perfect pitch. Thousands or millions of people that don't have perfect pitch could probably sing you an A 440, and this also suggests this idea, because A 440 is the most commonly tuned to note, people hear it so much on their tuners, it is very easy to sing.
Alberich
2008-11-07 00:18:55 UTC
A remarkable article Tucomena; thanks for posting it. I don't even have very good relative pitch - a good thing my principal instrument is the piano.



But at the risk of incurring some music lovers wrath, I would like to digress a bit. There is a type of sound much more important to ones spiritual evolution, than that of perfect pitch.



This in yoga in called "anahata nadam": "sound without instrument", which evolves(one begins to hear and listen to)in assiduous practice of yoga; an article about it follows that some of your responders may find interesting:



http://www.crystallotus.com/Sound/A19.htm



Alberich
Ryan K
2008-11-06 22:26:36 UTC
Very cool. I've always suspected that to be the case. Because I've run into people who have taught themselves perfect pitch, and I've run into people that were born with it. And let me tell you that there is an absolutely huge difference.



I'm curious though if they had a way to test and see whether those that they claimed had perfect pitch simply completely lacked any relative pitch? Is it not possible to have a grasp of both? I don't see why it wouldn't be.
duhmightybeanz
2008-11-06 18:27:48 UTC
Interesting report...People with perfect pitch are sort of cursed and blessed...Well its a double-edged sword!



It cuts off at the end though...


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