Question:
Who did Wagner influence?
tzddean
2008-03-27 08:00:18 UTC
How did Wagner influence other composers? I've googled it and haven't come up with much, so I'd be grateful if anyone can help.
Six answers:
del_icious_manager
2008-03-27 09:33:48 UTC
Hardly anyone who came after him was not in some way influenced by Wagner. He introduced a radical new way of approaching structure and harmony. Without Wagner's (and Mahler's) influence Schoenberg might not have taken that step further in his career and experimented with atonality and serialism (along with Webern and Berg after him). The young Dvořák was heavily influenced by Wagner (perhaps shown most strongly in the 3rd Symphony) as was, of course Bruckner, who idolised the older composer and even dedicated his own Third Symphony to him (complete with quotations from Wagner, expunged in later revisions).



Even a composer as seemingly different from Wagner as Claude Debussy was initially strongly influenced by him - as one can tell in Debussy's great opera 'Pelleas and Melisande'. Hardly any composers in central Europe active between 1880 and 1910 were immune to Wagner's influence to a greater or lesser extent.



Strangely, I don't hear Wagner in Mahler, who was such an individual voice, although I do hear him quite a lot in Richard Strauss.



Among composers who show Wagner's influence very strongly include:



Alban Berg (1885-1935)

Walter Braunfels (1882-1954)

Anton Bruckner (1824-1896)

Ernest Chausson (1855-1899)

Antonín Dvořák (1841-1904)

César Franck (1822-1890)

Erich Korngold (1897-1957)

Albéric Magnard (1865-1914)

Hans Pfitzner (1869-1949)

Max Reger (1873-1916)

Arnold Schoenberg (1874-1951)

Franz Schreker (1878-1934)

Richard Strauss (1864-1949)

Karol Szymanowski (1882-1937)

Anton Webern (1881-1945)

Hugo Wolf (1860-1903)

Alexander von Zemlinsky (1871-1942)
suhwahaksaeng
2008-03-27 21:56:30 UTC
In some of Puccini's operas, individual characters have motifs. There is a Schaunard motif in La Boheme, a Scarpia motif in Tosca, and a Sharpless motif in Madama Butterfly. I have wondered if that was because of Wagner's influence.
Bearcat
2008-03-28 04:08:02 UTC
This site lists those composers that were influenced by Wagner:



http://www.wku.edu/~smithch/music/index2.htm



Click on Composers and then on "W" to find the list.



Musician, composer, director.
Lisa
2008-03-27 21:13:33 UTC
A better question is who wasn't? I would disregard the wikipedia copied answer as wikipedia, although useful, is not good for the most accurate information. It's open to any who wish to contribute. I'VE contributed. Del is spot on, though.



~Lisa
relaxin_adios&thanks
2008-03-27 15:13:26 UTC
Anton Bruckner was a big fan of Wagner. Here's a few other searches that might help.



http://books.google.com/books?id=kQo6AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA463&dq=%22influence+of+wagner%22&as_brr=1



http://books.google.com/books?id=0eMvAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA106&dq=%22influence+of+wagner%22&as_brr=1



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22influence+of+wagner%22+site%3A.edu



Another good one

http://cf.hum.uva.nl/natlearn/music/lajosi.html#2
2008-03-27 15:16:29 UTC
Wagner pioneered advances in musical language, such as extreme chromaticism and quickly shifting tonal centres, which greatly influenced the development of European classical music.



He transformed musical thought through his idea of Gesamtkunstwerk ("total artwork"), the synthesis of all the poetic, visual, musical and dramatic arts



Wagner's late stage operas are his masterpieces that advanced the art of opera.



He was an advocate of a new form of opera which he called "music drama", in which all the musical and dramatic elements were fused together. Unlike other opera composers, who generally left the task of writing the libretto (the text and lyrics) to others, Wagner wrote his own libretti, which he referred to as "poems". Further, Wagner developed a compositional style in which the orchestra's role is equal to that of the singers. The orchestra's dramatic role includes its performance of the leitmotifs, musical themes that announce specific characters, locales, and plot elements; their complex interleaving and evolution illuminates the progression of the drama.



Wagner's influence and legacy



Richard Wagner's bust in "Festspielpark Bayreuth"Wagner made highly significant, if controversial, contributions to art and culture. In his lifetime, and for some years after, Wagner inspired fanatical devotion amongst his followers, and was occasionally considered by them to have a near god-like status. His compositions, in particular Tristan und Isolde, broke important new musical ground. For years afterward, many composers felt compelled to align themselves with or against Wagner. Anton Bruckner and Hugo Wolf are indebted to him especially, as are César Franck, Henri Duparc, Ernest Chausson, Jules Massenet, Alexander von Zemlinsky, Hans Pfitzner and dozens of others. Gustav Mahler said, "There was only Beethoven and Wagner". The twentieth century harmonic revolutions of Claude Debussy and Arnold Schoenberg (tonal and atonal modernism, respectively) have often been traced back to Tristan. The Italian form of operatic realism known as verismo owes much to Wagnerian reconstruction of musical form.



Wagner made a major contribution to the principles and practice of conducting. His essay On conducting (1869) advanced the earlier work of Hector Berlioz and proposed that conducting was a means by which a musical work could be re-interpreted, rather than simply a mechanism for achieving orchestral unison. The central European conducting tradition which followed Wagner's ideas includes artists such as Hans von Bülow, Arthur Nikisch, Wilhelm Furtwängler and Herbert von Karajan.



Wagner also made significant changes to the conditions under which operas were performed. It was Wagner who first demanded that the lights be dimmed during dramatic performances, and it was his theatre at Bayreuth which first made use of the sunken orchestra pit, which at Bayreuth entirely conceals the orchestra from the audience.



Wagner's influence on literature and philosophy is significant. Friedrich Nietzsche was part of Wagner's inner circle during the early 1870s, and his first published work The Birth of Tragedy proposed Wagner's music as the Dionysian rebirth of European culture in opposition to Apollonian rationalist decadence. Nietzsche broke with Wagner following the first Bayreuth Festival, believing that Wagner's final phase represented a pandering to Christian pieties and a surrender to the new demagogic German Reich. In the twentieth century, W. H. Auden once called Wagner "perhaps the greatest genius that ever lived", while Thomas Mann and Marcel Proust were heavily influenced by him and discussed Wagner in their novels. He is discussed in some of the works of James Joyce. Wagner is one of the main subjects of T. S. Eliot's The Waste Land, which contains lines from Tristan und Isolde and refers to The Ring and Parsifal. Charles Baudelaire, Stéphane Mallarmé and Paul Verlaine worshipped Wagner. Many of the ideas his music brought up, such as the association between love and death (or Eros and Thanatos) in Tristan, predated their investigation by Sigmund Freud.



Not all reaction to Wagner was positive. For a time, German musical life divided into two factions, Wagner's supporters and those of Johannes Brahms; the latter, with the support of the powerful critic Eduard Hanslick, championed traditional forms and led the conservative front against Wagnerian innovations. They were supported by the conservative leanings of some German music schools, including the Conservatoire at Leipzig under Ignaz Moscheles and that at Köln under the direction of Ferdinand Hiller[6]. Even those who, like Debussy, opposed him ("that old poisoner"), could not deny Wagner's influence. Indeed, Debussy was one of many composers, including Tchaikovsky, who felt the need to break with Wagner precisely because his influence was so unmistakable and overwhelming. Others who resisted Wagner's influence included Gioachino Rossini ("Wagner has wonderful moments, and dreadful quarters of an hour").



Wagner's concept of leitmotif and integrated musical expression has been a strong influence on many 20th century film scores, including such examples as John Williams' music for Star Wars. The rock composer Jim Steinman created what he called Wagnerian Rock. The rock subgenre of heavy metal music is also said by some to show influence of Wagner (as well as other classical composers}. In Germany Rammstein and Joachim Witt who has named three of his albums Bayreuth, claim inspiration from Wagner's music. Klaus Schulze (German electronic composer and Wagner admirer) dedicated his 1975 album Timewind to Wagner's death (two 30-min tracks, "Bayreuth Return" and "Wahnfried 1883"). He also used the alias Richard Wahnfried for a part of his discography.



Most of the Trevor Jones soundtrack to John Boorman's Arthurian film Excalibur is from Wagner's operas.



An adapted version of Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries is used in the Francis Ford Coppola film Apocalypse Now.



An unusual manifestation of Wagner was in the 1957 Bugs Bunny cartoon film, What's Opera, Doc?, adapting music from various of his operas to fit in with the traditional topic of Elmer Fudd hunting Bugs



Wagner's writings on race would probably be considered unimportant were it not for the influence of his son-in-law Houston Stewart Chamberlain, who expanded on Gobineau's ideas and Wagner's interpretation of them in his 1899 book The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, a work proclaiming the superiority of Aryan races, which had a wide circulation and later became required reading for members of the Nazi party.



Adolf Hitler was an admirer of Wagner's music and saw in it an embodiment of his own heroic mythology of the German nation. There continues to be debate about the extent to which Wagner's views might have influenced Nazi thinking. As with the works of Nietzsche, the Nazis used those parts of Wagner's thought that were useful for propaganda and ignored or suppressed the rest. For example Joseph Goebbels banned Parsifal in 1939, shortly before the outbreak of the Second World War, due to the perceived pacifistic overtones of the opera.[13] Although Hitler himself was obsessed by "the Master" many in the Nazi hierarchy were not, and, according to the historian Richard Carr, most Nazis deeply resented the prospect of attending these lengthy epics at Hitler's insistence.[14]


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