Why are there two Clementi op. 37 no. 2 compositions?

Question

I guess there is a clementi Sonatina op. 37 no. 2 in D major(which isn't bad), and a wonderful sonata in g major with the same opus number, Sonata op. 37 no.2? Why did they have to make it so tricky? By way of contrast, Brahms opus 118 has a variety of pieces but they don't get their own independent sets of numbers, its just no. 1 intermezzo, no. 2 intermezzo, no. 3 ballade, and even a "romanze" and so forth. Its bothersome because I can't find the sheet music to this wonderful sonata, always being redirected to the sonatina. I found out about it on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGEy5cw_XL4

I think Clementi deserves to be known more for his sonatas(except that overplayed one in B flat), many of them have such a signature and you learn a lot about piano technique playing them.

Answer 1

OK, you have indeed hit upon the researcher's nightmare: the fully documented & published anomaly! :-)



I have here the full catalogue of his works as it will appear in the new critical edition of Clementi's work "Muzio Clementi, Opera Omnia" by Ut Orpheus Edizioni, and that shows op. 37 firmly assigned to what I expect to see it assigned to: the three Sonatas, including the one you so appreciate.



On screen, at the same time, I have the frontispiece to an Edition Durand publication of 3 Sonatinas "op. 37" and 3 Sonatinas "op.38", the ones which evidently are causing you grief.



It's far from uncommon for historical editions of even the most major composers to have anomalies as regards opus numbering between publishers in one country and another. Opus numbers were normally assigned by the publishers in each individual country, leaving the situation wide open to anomalies and errors, and usually with the passing of time these differences get ironed out until they are consistently numbered everywhere. With Clementi having suffered long periods of neglect, it would seem that such a clean-up among opus number assignments has yet to take place -- evidently one of the purposes of the new critical edition currently in progress -- and that has caused the daft situation you have stumbled upon yourself in your pursuit of the actual op. 37 Sonatas.



To solve your practical problem: Henle, under the editorship of Alan Tyson, have published selected Clementi Sonatas in an Urtext edition, and this will give you the G major op.37/2 you are looking for, without those sonatinas getting in your way:



http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/Selected-Piano-Sonatas-Volume-II-1790-1805/3765804



(IMSLP, specifically where Clementi is concerned, are in a complete muddle, with two further "Sonatas op.36", the opus number properly assigned to the 6 Sonatinas which every one knows and/or loves from childhood. They too have the op.37 slot taken up by those sonatinas causing you grief, to create even more obfuscation. So no help there, unusually.)



Edit:



Solved!! A little footnote unravels the riddle of what has happened here with "op.37" sonatinas, as published by Alfred Music Publishing:



"For over 100 years, Clementi's Six Sonatas, Op. 4 were published under the erroneous title, Sonatinas, Opp. 37 and 38. However, when Clementi first published these two-movement works, he called them Six Sonatas for Pianoforte or Harpsichord, Op. 4. These sonatas are excellent follow-up material to the Six Sonatinas, Op. 36, and provide intermediate students with an excellent introduction to the early Classical style. Interpretive suggestions are included." (3)



They also have the complete sonatas published in much less expensive ($12.95) but also less scholarly editions, which will make things more affordable for you:



http://www.alfred.com/Browse/Instruments/PianoKeyboard/Piano.aspx



(just enter "Clementi sonatas" in the search field and they will emerge for you.)



All the best,

Answer 2

I have a book which has a four-page chart which unravels this mess.

The D major sonata which you refer to is listed elsewhere as op. 4 no. 1.

Clementi wrote that on in 1780.

It's not included in the complete works edition by Breitkopf und Hartel, but it is vol. 3 no. 48 in Volksausgabe--whatever that is.



The G major sonata is listed elsewhere as op. 33 no. 2 in one place and p. 39 no. 2 in Grove's Dictionary.

Clementi wrote that in 1794.

It's vol. 9 no. 2 in the complete works and vol. 3 no. 54 in Volksausgabe.



The six well-known sonatinas were written in approximately 1798.

They are the first six in volume 11 of the complete works edition.

They are not in Volksausgabe.



If I understand you correctly, it's the G major sonata which you're after.

Both of Nemesis's last two links would get you the D major sonata.



You don't have to buy a complete works set or Volksausgabe set.

Try interlibrary loan.

A librarian somewhere else could photocopy those pages and send them to your librarian.

I've gotten music scores that way myself.

Answer 3

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