Question:
Is 17-18 yr old too late to consider becoming a professional musician?
Mikey
2008-02-22 20:35:42 UTC
Because see, I didn't really become serious with music until around that age. Then I began to learn Theory and become interested in how music is constructed, and eventually more serious about creating my own music. I'm now 20...and only recently have i started to develop my ability to hear notes, chords, rhythms etc. And there's still so much more to learn! Everything else about theory (complex substitutions, various scales, modulations, i.e. jazz theory, orchestration, transcription... as i see it, the mastery of these musical concepts depends mostly on a good memory. I feel that no matter how much effort I put into trying to learn these concepts, I'll never get to the level of proficiency that's ordinarly expected of a professional musican soon enough. Should I just give up and consider becoming a music teacher?
Fifteen answers:
Malcolm D
2008-02-23 12:08:59 UTC
Like most people of your age, you can't see the forest for the trees. Why not continue to work hard on your abilities and continue to learn? Who says there has to be a timetable to becoming a "professional musician." If you are simply teaching music, how does one preclude the other? Young people such as yourself are always in such a rush. You will no more need to commit such concepts to memory as a professional musician than as a music teacher. There is no reason why both avenues cannot co-exist. The knowledge of many music teachers far outstrips that of so called professional musicians. The choice between the two is not necessarily dependent on knowledge of music theory, but is rather one of inspiration.

You don't say what you propose to do as a "pro" - are you talking composition, session or ensemble work or playing someone else's compositions.



This may be one case where you can have your cake and eat it too.
tcb
2008-02-23 09:29:39 UTC
In short, no, it's not too late. The challenges you are facing are not insurmountable, even if they may seem so at the moment. Here are some helpful tips for an 'older' musician:



1) Most people have to practice much harder at your age to achieve the same results that most achieve relatively quickly when they are younger - you are not alone here. You are past the 'critical age', during which one acquires language skills more naturally, and music is a language. But keep putting in the effort, it may seem excessive but eventually it *will* pay off and result in the level of proficiency you desire. Remember, everyone runs into roadblocks when learning, no matter what their age!



2) Think positively! If slow results yield to frustration, frustration will in turn yield to hopelessness, and you will ultimately give up your dream.



3) I was in a similar situation, the only difference being I started two years younger than you. I did not develop my ear until my early twenties, when I earned my degree in music theory. I had to work much harder than my classmates, most of whom had started serious study on their instruments when they were children. If you work hard, you will overcome your weaknesses, which brings me to...



4) Your musical memory. Since you're attaching such importance to it I'm guessing it's your weakness. It is of course important, and fortunately it can be learned. However, there are several other skills that will aid you in reaching your goals. Do not dismiss your talent in these other areas! Even though you may have to work harder on your memory, try to figure out your strengths and focus on these also.



So, if you keep a positive attitude and follow the advice people have been giving you, in the end you will accomplish your goals. Just the fact that you are asking indicates that you still think it's possible, and you are correct.
Spirit
2008-02-23 07:55:44 UTC
Don't listen to the answer above. All her answers are self centered and she takes EVERYTHING personally anyway. My flute teacher never took any special college courses or personal training like Mamianka brags about and she still taught me really well. I think whatever choice you choose you'll be great at it. You don't need special training to be a good teacher. But the I can't do it attitude won't get you anywhere. So what if you're 20. I know people that are 60 and older that are just learning to play piano. So what if they are old? they only have one life to get everything out of it. your still young and I bet you can get a long way in a few years.
?
2008-02-23 06:03:16 UTC
You had me with you right up until the end when you GROSSLY INSULTED ME!! I have been a music teacher since 1971 - multiple undergrad and grad degrees from fine conservatories, and will stack up MY musical skills next to a LOT of people. I have ALWAYS played professionally - I took 12 years off from teaching when I was raising my family and would have returned to teaching sooner, but I was playing SO MUCH professional classical music, I did not return until the pleading pone calls came over and over. If you think that your skills are in any way deficient WHO OH WHY would you think that would qualify you to teach the next generation???



OK - back to you. If you idea of "professional musician" means playing in a rock band, then I have not much to say to you. There are FAR too many people out there who think that TALENT ALONE ( asi f they actually HAD any) will get them thru - while other popular-based musicians are getting DEGREES in popular music from fine schools like Berklee and Five Towns. Fi you are interested in SERIOUS music, then you need to take whatever private and class study you can in the meantime, and then get into a GOOD college, conservatory, or university-based degree program. WHEN you get in, or even finish your degree, will make about as much difference in your life as when you were toilet trained - who remembers or cares? The critical issue is QUALITY - always has been, always will be. The sappy "Ooh, just believe in yourself and go on Youtube" answer in these forums are NEVER given by degrees pros - just wannabee kids. Sort those out - go with legitimate advice - and quit denigrating MUSIC TEACHERS! I make DOUBLE in a year what my colleagues with performance degrees make - and I have benefits, a beautiful home, two cars, and am debt free - not even any credit card debt. I play all the high-quality gigs I want - because I earned my way here.
RawTech
2008-02-23 00:10:49 UTC
HELL NO. dont give up, but becoming a teacher is a good way to refresh thoes things you already know. it will just make you better. no matter how good you get there always will be something else you didnt learn yet so keep on playing. im 20 and i just finished my first year of music. you and i are about the same level. dont give up im not.
Terrrs-uh
2008-02-23 10:47:50 UTC
no way! just keep on working and working and you will succeed! besides, there is always gonna be more to learn in the music world. contemporary composers come out with wacky stuff that seems illegible at first, but then you learn. even classical music turns out to be strange sometimes (for example, bernstein... i think i saw a piece by him with something weird like fifteen halves six time or something....) really, i'll bet you're learning well and will do just fine!
dzodiark
2008-02-22 21:14:47 UTC
no keep on working. Anything is possibly, you could be a natural. But it might be a good idea to teach on the side. In planning lessons for students, you will inevitably come into contact with more music and expand your own knowledge. Good luck!
anonymous
2008-02-23 02:26:30 UTC
no plz never give up!!!!!!!!! if u have an interest in music u should keep trying....... listen the most important thing to achieve something in life is to complete the task......... that doesn't matter that u have won or not....... the most important is to complete and finish ur music......... it is not necessary that being a music teacher u will not achieve anything...... i also love music but from April i will be in 10Th and i have to prepare for that so i hardly any time to learn music....... even my voice is also very sweet but...... but i learnt kathak and i completed it......... and now i dance very well...... my parents proud on me coz i m very studious, a very well dancer, very good singer..... i think your parents are also proud of u so plz don't upset them and never give up just keep trying....... ok i will not bore u...... best of luck for ur musical life...!! byeeee!
Meli
2008-02-22 20:43:55 UTC
No!

never give up..

keep trying..

not all the pros KNEW they wanted that..

but if in the end you decide that you wanna be a teacher..

go for it..

but don't give up because you THINK you wont make it..

you just might..

keep trying..

p.s.

I think that's awesome!! i'm really into that too.
Alberich
2008-02-22 20:54:18 UTC
Heavens no. You don't have to be another Mozart. Richard Wagner, one of the greatest of all operatic composers, didn't begin his studies of harmony and theory until he was in his twenties.



So by all means, full steam ahead, and the best of luck to you.



Alberich
anonymous
2016-04-03 06:18:33 UTC
Well, it depends on the girl. Some things I got when I was that age that I loved were gift cards to girly stores, picture frames with pictures of me and the gifter, candles, video games.
xx.
2008-02-24 12:26:44 UTC
Many of the professional musicians I know didn't start until college or later.
anonymous
2008-02-24 07:01:01 UTC
Should you just give up and become a music teacher? Oy !!



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punk_rock_guy_chris
2008-02-22 20:46:18 UTC
No you still got your whole life ahead to work on it and create new stuff.
raphyP
2008-02-24 16:29:39 UTC
it's never too late


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